Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ihnp4!chinet!wmf From: wmf@chinet.UUCP Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech,comp.misc Subject: Re: Service at Dealerships (was: '86 Camaro Computer System) Message-ID: <1023@chinet.UUCP> Date: Fri, 15-May-87 07:25:45 EDT Article-I.D.: chinet.1023 Posted: Fri May 15 07:25:45 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 16-May-87 16:41:47 EDT References: <1580@Umunhum.STANFORD.EDU> <1034@codas.ATT.COM> <855@elrond.CalComp.COM> <10099@sri-spam.istc.sri.com> Reply-To: wmf@chinet.UUCP (Bill Fischer) Organization: Black Dog Moving and Storage (chinet), Chicago, Il Lines: 37 Xref: utgpu rec.autos:1465 rec.autos.tech:768 comp.misc:494 In article <10099@sri-spam.istc.sri.com> robert@sri-spam.UUCP (Robert Allen) writes: >In article <855@elrond.CalComp.COM> amamaral@elrond.CalComp.COM (Alan Amaral) writes: >>It seems to me that you ought to be flaming the DEALER, not the >>manufacturer. Things break! Things go out of adjustment! If the >>stupid mechanic can't fix it it's probably not the manufacturers fault, >>it's the dealers fault. A franchised new car dealer has as part of his agreement with the factory a commitment to "honor product". He makes a substantial investment in both equipment and personnel in order to fulfill this commitment. By and large, the service department in a new car dealership has the lowest return on the dealer's investment than any other profit center. So, that may offer an explanation, tho not a justification for the indifference that you find when dealing with a warranty problem. What can you, the poor consumer, do? GET THE FACTORY INVOLVED! If you feel that the dealer has not lived up to his commitment to honor product, a letter to the FACTORY service rep will get the surest results. (His address is probably all over your new car warranty book, posted every place but the john at the dealer's and will be cheerfully given you by any of the "consumer protector" agencies at the state and federal level). Once you generate that document, it starts a "tickler" process that will continue to haunt the dealer until some sort of resolution of the problem occurs. I speak from experience, having been involved in automating the nightmarish paperwork problems from factory warranty claims in a number of dealerships. Every week, the factory service rep shows up at the deal and one of the first order's of business is dealing with HIS mail. Since this guy can turn off the factory payments (or slow down, anyway) the dealer gets for warranty work, he has clout. Of course, a copy of your letter was forwarded to HIS boss before being routed to him, so.... Caveat Emptor, let the buyer keep copies ... -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | UUCP: wmf@chinet.UUCP FONE: 312 441-5096 ICBM: 41 52' 28" 87 38' 22" | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Mossad fissionable counter-intelligence NSA genetic terrorist ammunition D E S nuclear Marxist [Hello to all my fans in domestic surveillance] CIA Uzi rifle assassination Soviet plutonium Treasury Rule Psix Cocaine Ortega FBI PLO DES strategic Nazi smuggle supercomputer domestic disruption KGB Kennedy SDI spy