Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!munnari!moncskermit!goanna!yabbie!rcopm From: rcopm@yabbie.oz (Paul Menon) Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix Subject: Re: Re: Benchmarking the 532, 68030, MIPS, 386...at a Usenix! Message-ID: <510@yabbie.oz> Date: Fri, 29-May-87 20:00:29 EDT Article-I.D.: yabbie.510 Posted: Fri May 29 20:00:29 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 31-May-87 20:37:21 EDT References: <8080@bu-cs.BU.EDU> Organization: RMIT Comm & Elec Eng, Melbourne, Australia. Lines: 35 > In-reply-to: mike@hcr.UUCP's message of 20 May 87 22:59:51 GMT > > Although I have nothing *against* a benchmark suite I still claim that > this is becoming less of an issue when compared against the richness > of the environment. Going full throttle for the flames, I wouldn't > trade my (mere :-) 2MIP Sun3/160 on (beside) my desk for a 10 MIP, > vanilla System V dumb terminal, no network, no job-control > environment, you'd have to pry the Sun out of my dead hands (tho I'd > take a 1 MIP SYSV over a 100MIP VMS system, it's all relative.) I totally agree! It all boils down do how productive these machines allow you to be, AND STILL LET YOU SMILE AT THE END OF THE DAY! That's my definition of a friendly user interface. After all, it is *you*, the programmer or enduser, that is the biggest factor affecting progress. It doesn't matter how hefty a machine you have in front of you, if it don't make you smile, it don't make you work. If you don't work - it don't work. Simple. It seems the trend with computers that the more powerful they are, the more moronic they get. What good is brawn without brains? Sure they run heaps faster, but who develops the programs for them? Surely we can't count on all but extinct lanuages (FORTRAN, COBOL) to hang around forever running on state of the art hardware? Then again, I guess it depends on mentality, eh? Apologies if people deem my response to be in the wrong newsgroup, but some of us would be in the dark if it wasn't for bignoses catching the light. Paul Menon. Dept of Communication & Electronic Engineering, Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, 124 Latrobe St, Melbourne, 3000, Australia ACSnet: rcopm@yabbie UUCP: ...!seismo!munnari!yabbie.rmit.oz!rcopm CSNET: rcopm@yabbie.rmit.oz ARPA: rcopm%yabbie.rmit.oz@seismo BITNET: rcopm%yabbie.rmit.oz@CSNET-RELAY PHONE: +61 3 660 2619.