Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!mo From: mo@seismo.CSS.GOV (Mike O'Dell) Newsgroups: comp.periphs Subject: Fast Tape drives Message-ID: <43735@beno.seismo.CSS.GOV> Date: Wed, 6-May-87 15:06:52 EDT Article-I.D.: beno.43735 Posted: Wed May 6 15:06:52 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 9-May-87 00:50:44 EDT Organization: Center for Seismic Studies, Arlington, VA Lines: 46 In a recent posting here Chris Torek posted some calculations showing that 125 ips 6250 tape drives were "unnecessary" since you couldn't drive them full speed. HORSE HOCKEY!!! The problem with his calculations is that UNIX doesn't do overlapped I/O on raw devices, tape or disk! This means that the REAL TIME for the operation on the tape drive is EVERYTHING! While you may not be able to drive it full speed all the time, you can come pretty close quite often, and with real, high-performance start-stop drives, unlike "streamers", the operations always take just about the same time, ie, not long. I have a Fujitsu streamer on my SUN 3/280, and it streams some large part of the time doing dumps, but when it stops, backs up, and has to get a running start again, it takes forever by comparison. Further, if you every use the tapedrive for anything besides dumps, like really writing tapes full of data, the speed of the drive matters even more since you probably aren't writing the gargantuan blocks that dump uses to get its efficiency. I had a TELEX 8350 (8530??) triple density drive back on a VAX/780 in '82 and have sorely missed it since I left that site. It's sorta like a V8 engine - turbo-charged high-compression 4-cylinders can go quit fast when you get them wound up, but the winding takes a while. A V8 goes fast quickly. (V12's are even better! ;-) ) Nothing beats a REAL tapedrive, i.e., 1600/6250 bpi @ 125 ips start/stop, ideally with 200 ips rewind and fast-forward speeds. Of course these specs are a compromise - until you see 250ips @ 6250 gcr mode, you ain't seen a tape drive. Yours for faster files, and dumps, -Mike le. le.