Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!OPAL.BERKELEY.EDU!minshall From: minshall@OPAL.BERKELEY.EDU Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Dial-up TCP/IP (was interactive SMTP over phone lines) Message-ID: <8705122054.AA18720@opal.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 12-May-87 16:54:27 EDT Article-I.D.: opal.8705122054.AA18720 Posted: Tue May 12 16:54:27 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 15-May-87 03:18:47 EDT References: <8705121757.AA19307@armagnac.DEC.COM> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 38 Chris, Currently, a user logged in to one of our IP hosts can now run any/all of the client protocols they would like. When they do this, they run the protocol using the IP host's CPU cycles, and things they do that reference files (ftp, "screen capture" on telnet) they reference files located on the IP host system. What I would like is for any user with an account on any of our IP hosts to be able to dial in (from home), or otherwise connect, and run those same clients from their micro (thus affecting the files in the micro, and using, mostly, CPU cycles from the micro). One of the advantages here is that the user need not submit a "request for an IP address" form to the local administration. Nor do they need to know what IP address they are talking from. I am the first to admit that the RPC mechanism solves only the problem I am posing. Still, I think it is an interesting problem. As to your point about validation schemes, I tend to differ. I agree that the .rhosts scheme has limited usability (and can be something of a security hole). However, I think that the most interesting schemes will be those relying on authentication, keys, etc. (and NOT on knowledge of the remote host name). Again, my purpose is to allow micros to become clients. This is also my bias. Not to prompt any heated discussion, but I am dubious of the desirability of running SMTP servers on large numbers of micros. Here I think the POP-like protocols are more interesting. In those (relatively fewer) cases where it is necessary to run a machine with servers, then a separate IP address (and separate protocols) would be the way to go. I should make clear that I am not even seriously proposing any work in this area at this time. It is just an idea I've been kicking around for a while, and the recent discussion was enough to finally prod me into airing it a bit. Greg