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From: lamaster@pioneer.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: TCP/IP ETHERNET DECNET VAX
Message-ID: <1677@ames.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 3-Jun-87 13:07:55 EDT
Article-I.D.: ames.1677
Posted: Wed Jun  3 13:07:55 1987
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Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif.
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Keywords: TCP/IP ETHERNET DECNET VAX

In article <2033@a.cs.okstate.edu> keith@a.cs.okstate.edu (Keith Lovelace) writes:
>Help!!!
>
>We here at OSU have just recently decided that we would purchase a VAX 8350 and
>run ULTRIX on it.  We currently are running a VAX 11/780 with VMS.  We would
>like to run DECNet to the two machines for file transferr, mail, etc. (our
>first attempt at DECNetting anything).  We would then like to run a TCP/IP
>link on the 8350 to do the terminal interface.  The first problem arises in
>the fact that there are very few DEC people who know anything about ULTRIX,
>much less TCP/IP.  This is also our first attempt at providing a campus wide
>UNIX (at least a derivative) system, and also our first attempt at TCP/IP
>networking.  In other words, we are stepping into unknown and previously
>untouched areas.  To get on with it, my questions may be simple to you but
>are still confusing to me.
>
>Problem one.  Can ULTRIX, or 4.2 BSD (since it is supposedly not changed by
>DEC) support both a DECNet link and a TCP/IP link at the same time without
>problems?
>

Here at Ames, we are running both TCP/IP and DECNET on an 11/780 using 
Ultrix.  There have been no problems that I am aware of.

>Problem two.  Does ULTRIX do very well talking to terminal servers such as
>the ANNEX UX on TCP/IP?
>

Yes, it works fine.  We have tested Ultrix with the Annex.  No problems.

>The reason for going to the TCP/IP connection for terminals is based on the
>fact that we don't want to lock ourselves into $'s of DEC hardware for

This is good reasoning in my opinion.

I have no experience with the 8350. Sorry.  We do have an 8650 running VMS, and
I have been impressed by its speed.


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