Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!decvax!tektronix!tekcrl!tekfdi!videovax!stever From: stever@videovax.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Amiga Disk & HAM problems Message-ID: <4383@videovax.Tek.COM> Date: Mon, 11-May-87 11:46:44 EDT Article-I.D.: videovax.4383 Posted: Mon May 11 11:46:44 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 14-May-87 05:59:23 EDT References: <867@isrnix.UUCP> <1731@tekigm2.TEK.COM> Reply-To: stever@videovax.Tek.COM (Steven E. Rice, P.E.) Organization: Tektronix Television Systems, Beaverton, Oregon Lines: 40 Keywords: capacitors decoupling Summary: Those capacitors should have been there in the first place!!! In article <1731@tekigm2.TEK.COM>, Jac Colby (jacc@tekigm2.TEK.COM) writes: [ description of bit-rot and other problems caused by an added board ] > I removed the Squeeze-Ram and all worked well. Aminetics > provided a fix, and so far, all is well. Significantly, the fix > was to add .047uf caps to the memory address decode chips to > clean up the signals. . . . Those capacitors should have been there in the first place! A good rule of thumb is to use one 0.1 uF capacitor at *each* 74ALSxxx, 74ASxxx, and 74Fxxx chip, one 0.1 uF capacitor at each PAL, and one 0.1 uF capacitor for each two 74LSxxx and 74HCxxx parts. Each memory part should have its own capacitor (0.1 uF for 64K DRAMs, 0.33 uF for 256K and 1Meg DRAMs). If the capacitors aren't there, when the part tries to yank an output down (transition times are on the order of 2-10 nanoseconds), the part merely succeeds in bringing +5 volts and ground closer together for a short time (voltage spikes in excess of 2 volts on the +5 volt supply are not uncommon). This can feed CRUD (Continuous and Random Unwanted Disturbances) into the rest of your system. One generally-reliable measure of quality is the placement of decoupling capacitors. If *every* part is properly decoupled (appropriately-sized decoupling capacitor located adjacent to the part; short, wide runs or power and ground plane connections between each capacitor and its part), the chances are much better the product will work correctly. Steve Rice ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright 1987 by Steven E. Rice, P.E. All Rights Reserved. This material may be redistributed only where such redistribution is without charge and without restrictions on further redistribution. Incorporation of this material in a compilation or other collective work constitutes permission from the intermediary to all recipients to freely redistribute the entire collection. All other uses are prohibited. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- new: stever@videovax.tv.Tek.com old: {decvax | hplabs | ihnp4 | uw-beaver | cae780}!tektronix!videovax!stever