Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!COGSCI.BERKELEY.EDU!bryce From: bryce@COGSCI.BERKELEY.EDU (Bryce Nesbitt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Reading Mac disks on the Amiga Message-ID: <8705150540.AA04612@cogsci.berkeley.edu> Date: Fri, 15-May-87 01:40:03 EDT Article-I.D.: cogsci.8705150540.AA04612 Posted: Fri May 15 01:40:03 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 16-May-87 14:08:44 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 43 Summary: The secret may have already been discovered. [Re: Reading Mac disks on the Amiga] Sorry to bring this net-worn topic up, but it appears that someone has done it. Well, almost done it: A product called "disk-2-disk" claims to read and ->write<- Commodore 4040/1541/1571 disks on the Amiga using the A1020 5 1/4 drive. The Commodore 5 1/4 inch disks are are similar to Mac disks in many ways: 1> Both use GCR encoding. The methods differ only in the details of the implementation. 2> Both use variable density. The Commodore format takes advantage of the extra area of the outer tracks by increasing the bit-rate electronically. The Mac does the same thing by slowing the motor on the outer tracks. There apparent success may be a result of: 1> Tricky programming. 2> Magic twoggling of Paula. (tsk, tsk.) 3> Magic inherent in the A1020 disk drive. ---------------------------------------- The company making these claims is: [Central Coast Software, 268 Bowie Drive, Los Osos, CA 93402 805-528-4906] I have no connection with this company other than I read their add in The Transactor and said "hey, this may be significant". ----------------------------------------- More technical comments not needed above: The Commodore drives have four distinct "zones". A two bit output register sets the starting point for a counter and thus can change the countdown by 0,1,2 or 3 cycles. The output is used by the bit clock. The Mac speed value is read at intervals out of the sound buffer (!). Unlike the electronic switching used above, the mechanical nature of this approach requires waiting for the drive to stabilize at the new speed. Now out of my depth and working on rumor-> the new Mac+ or Mac SE uses a constant speed drive and manages the changes electronically.