Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!rutgers!sri-spam!ames!amdahl!kim From: kim@amdahl.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Blitzfonts woes? (and related ramblings) Message-ID: <6684@amdahl.amdahl.com> Date: Mon, 18-May-87 02:15:01 EDT Article-I.D.: amdahl.6684 Posted: Mon May 18 02:15:01 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 18-May-87 06:40:49 EDT References: <1021@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 Lines: 146 Keywords: Blitzfonts possible crash (?) In article <1021@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu>, hsgj@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Dan Green) writes: > > I just downloaded the "Blitzfonts" program that has been receiving > so much net attention lately, and had a few problems which I thought > I would describe here. Interesting. I started using the Freely Redistributable version of BlitzFonts (the version that was posted) many months ago, and the upgraded version (that Hayes sent me when I registered) several weeks ago. I haven't had ANY problems attributable to either version whatsoever. > First: My system has a lot of ''drivers'' running all the time, > namely VD0: DH0: (Mas-20) AUX: PIPE: and a 2-meg ram. I also use > the Shell v2.04M. I have been using this config for about 6 weeks > with absolutely no problems (well, just added AUX: but the rest of > the stuff has been running for a long time). In the interest of isolating this problem, here's what I normally have going/configured (BTW, I have a C.Ltd 1-Meg board on the side): vd0:, ram:, DeciGEL (68010 rupt handler), AddBuffers 30 (both), stack 20000, setfont to "pearl", RSLClock13s, popcli (v2), AutoPoint2 w/jimm's commodities.library (v0.3), GRABBiT, AnyTime, BlitzFonts8, shell (v2.05M), and vt100 (v2.4) VD0: is sized at 640K, and is typically 80% full. Normally I edit with dme (v1.25), but have used several versions of uEmacs without problems as well. Tom Rokicki reports, " I had to blow away BlitzFonts because I suspected it was crashing my system. Oh well." Could you provide your "typical configuration", Tom? In fact, I would be interested in hearing what anyone whose using BlitzFonts configuration is, and whether you've had problems. Probably best to email this so as not to clutter up the net ... I'll summarize if there is sufficient interest. > So my guess is that > Blitzfonts is indeed the culprit, though of course with all these > ''drivers'' it may be something else. Ah yes, we do need some better tools to help isolate these kinds of problems, though actually, I'm amazed at how well all this "stuff" can coexist together and still function correctly (for the most part, anyway). You should see the pain and agony some of the PClone users go thru with incompatible TSR programs (Terminate and Stay Resident), and the like. Truly amazing!!! Of course when there *are* problems, it is almost imperative to HAVE THE BLOODY SOURCE CODE, or else go back to a vanilla, single-tasking system, or toss away the application in question. And Chris Anderson writes: > As an owner of FastFonts (by Microsmiths), I thought I'd post a mini-review > and clear up some misunderstandings. > > FastFonts is a teensy program that does pretty much what BlitzFonts > claims to do (haven't uploaded that yet tho). It has the additional > feature of allowing you to substitute other fonts for the default > Topaz font in system memory, thereby changing the look of your CLI > or whatever, without the program's knowledge. The version(s) of BlitzFonts that are provided after one registers, allow you to specify fonts other than Topaz, and font sizes from 8 thru 16. You are supposed to be able to run more than one of them at a time, but I haven't tried. It will NOT work with proportional fonts. > However, a significant complaint is that it does not live up to one > of its claims, which is that you can create your own typefaces > to substitute for the default Topaz one. Shortly after I posted BlitzFonts, I was in my local Amiga dealer's, and did a "Really Dumb Thing" ... I bought FastFonts! Largely, this was due to the statement on the back of the package that says, "Replace the System TOPAZ Fonts with one of four fonts we supply - or with one of your own." You see, I was *hoping* that the word "Replace" really meant just that, as I would really like to use VT100 with the font of *my* choice (and currently, TOPAZ is hardcoded in, and I haven't mucked with the source, since I keep hoping to see v2.7 to show up soon [ any word, Dave? ] ). Anyway, not only does FastFonts not "replace" TOPAZ, it does not even allow me to specify the font that I currently prefer, which is called "pearl.font", and was posted here by Mike Portuesi back in March [ thanks, Mike ... *much* better than Topaz ]. It keeps telling me that I can't specify a proportional font ... however, "pearl" is NOT proportional, and BlitzFonts8 handles it just fine! Now, before anyone jumps on me about it ... yes, I know TOPAZ is in Kickstart somewhere (or is it in ROM), and can't *really* be "replaced". But there are ways ... When (at long last) I finish this, I'll post a little program I came across on Lattice's BBS that *does* "replace" TOPAZ. It does some "naughty" things, but it works ... at least for most things (like VT100). There may well be some programs that will break if it's been run, but at least it points the way. The author just called the program "test", but I call it "repfont" so I can remember what it is. And (since I'm in verbose mode :-) ), here are a few more comments on the FastFonts product: o ScreenBlanker should more accurately be called ScreenDimmer. PopCLI does a better job here. o FunKeys does provide some useful functions like: "activate-window" (cycles thru open windows and screens), "activate-front-window", "cycle-windows-to-front", "cycle-windows-to-back", "active-window- to-front-and-full-size-it", etc. The "open-new-cli" function is there, but PopCLI provides more capability since you specify the command PopCLI is to execute when it's activated. This is normally the NewCLI command, but under 1.2, NewCLI has the optional FROM parm, which is the name of a file to be "Executed" when the new CLI comes up, but before control is passed to the user. (So, whenever I pop a cli, it comes up with shell up and running, etc.) PopCLI wins again. When you "run FunKeys" it *always* opens up it's damned window. Since this is the kind of program I would want to start from the startup-sequence, I don't want it to open anything! (There are really two versions of the FastFonts program, one which opens a window on invocation, and "FF", which does not. Finally, only two of the 10 Function keys can be programmed. o User documentation is pretty good. There is no real technical documentation. Anyone know if Charlie Heath (Microsmiths, Inc.) is still on the net? /kim -- UUCP: kim@amdahl.amdahl.com or: {sun,decwrl,hplabs,pyramid,ihnp4,seismo,oliveb,cbosgd}!amdahl!kim DDD: 408-746-8462 USPS: Amdahl Corp. M/S 249, 1250 E. Arques Av, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 CIS: 76535,25