Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!ames!ptsfa!hoptoad!academ!killer!elg From: elg@killer.UUCP (Eric Green) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Crunch, EGAD, and such Message-ID: <891@killer.UUCP> Date: Fri, 15-May-87 23:24:24 EDT Article-I.D.: killer.891 Posted: Fri May 15 23:24:24 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 23-May-87 06:03:33 EDT References: <302@osupyr.UUCP> Organization: The Unix(tm) Connection, Dallas, Texas Lines: 35 in article <302@osupyr.UUCP>, akw@osupyr.UUCP (Andrew Weaver) says: > > Not to be insensitive and/or naive (definitely the latter here) but what > exactly transpired that John Draper would have his hardware confiscated by > what sounds like the Federal Gov't? Well, see, back in the '70s he got thrown in jail a couple of times for phone fraud (phreaking). So nowadays, whenever something goes wrong, they go up to Cap'n Crunch's door and arrest him automatically :-). If I recall right, the current situation started with Crunch being accused of forging BART (Bay Area Rapit Transid, SF & environs) tickets. What that has to do with Crunch's computer getting expert-witnessed to death is anybody's guess, I suppose they think he wrote software that when you run it would spit a BART ticket out the disk drive door?! More likely, they said "hmm, we can't get him on the BART rap, but this dude has been in jail twice and is guilty of SOMETHING, maybe computer junk since he has one, so we'll just empound his computer and take our time and make things as hard on the slimeball as possible". Sheesh. DISCLAIMER: I don't know anything about the situation besides what I've heard thru the net, and what a friend who talked to Crunch, before the situation broke out, said (basically, "Poor Crunch has trouble getting a job because despite being a good programmer, nobody wants to hire someone with that kind of reputation, for some reason"). By which I can just imagine the reaction of the typical suit-and-tie IBM-forever business ghoul when presented with Crunch... -- Eric Green elg%usl.CSNET CS student, University of SW Louisiana {cbosgd,ihnp4}!killer!elg Apprentice Haquer, Bayou Telecommunications Snail Mail P.O. Box 92191 BBS phone #: 318-984-3854 300/1200 baud Lafayette, LA 70509 I disclaim my existence, and yours, too.