Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!ames!amdcad!bandy From: bandy@amdcad.AMD.COM (Andy Beals) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: Is an Apollo a UNIX box? Message-ID: <16784@amdcad.AMD.COM> Date: Fri, 22-May-87 20:52:56 EDT Article-I.D.: amdcad.16784 Posted: Fri May 22 20:52:56 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 23-May-87 18:02:18 EDT References: <870520222712.854845@HI-MULTICS.ARPA> <1734@zeus.TEK.COM> Reply-To: bandy@amdcad.UUCP (Andy Beals) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., Sunnyvale, Ca. Lines: 37 In article <1734@zeus.TEK.COM> bobr@zeus.UUCP (Robert Reed) writes: >Apollo currently is NOT a UNIX box. Agreed. >Rumors abound >that SR-10 of the Apollo system will be a "true" UNIX, implemented at the >kernel level. We wait to see. Our Apollo salesdroid was out today with his dog and pony show about "Native Ethernet, Unix Update and Network Computer System". The "native ethernet" is a 3-com(?) card that goes into the "at slot". They claim that while it's still a hair slower at getting data between Domain-Ring members, their engineering folks can't really tell the difference between Domain-Over-Ethernet and Domain-on-a-Ring. That's right, they're saying that if they run Domain-Over-Ethernet, it not only runs at the same speed, they encapsulate the Domain packets within IP packets so you can squirt them across gateways - but only T1 links, 56kbps is too slow. They were also claiming that TCP/IP throughput is 63% better with the "native ethernet". He also said that with SR-10, Aegis will exist for backwards compatability reasons and that Unix will be the base of their system. I'll believe that when I see it. The "Network Computing System" seems to be mostly vaporware right now, but they do seem to have some good ideas. Basically they're willing to hand out standard interfaces to subroutines that could be on remote machines. They have servers for deciding what machines to poll for certain subroutines and also a couple other functions. They didn't say anything about compiler improvements. They also made a face when I asked when they were going to start supporting NeWS. andy -- Andrew Scott Beals, {lll-crg,decwrl,allegra}!amdcad!bandy +1 408 749 3683