Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!mcnc!gatech!rutgers!sri-spam!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!UOTTAWA.BITNET!051332 From: 051332@UOTTAWA.BITNET Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Bug report: 'The Russian Doll' sp. nova (?) Message-ID: <8705081618.AA15013@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 8-May-87 12:18:22 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8705081618.AA15013 Posted: Fri May 8 12:18:22 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 9-May-87 19:07:58 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 75 Received: by UOTTAWA (Mailer X1.23b) id 9249; Fri, 08 May 87 12:14:04 EDT Date: Fri, 08 May 87 12:09:20 EDT From: John Turnbull <051332@UOTTAWA> Subject: Bug report: 'The Russian Doll' sp. nova (?) To: INFO-ATARI16@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU I don't know if this is a new species of bug, or one of the known ones in a new morph ... The System: Monochrome (SM124) 1040STF and a NECP6 printer The disks: SSDD Maxels formatted to DSDD with David Small & Dan Moore's TWISTER with the net mods (82 tracks) The AUTO folder: John Franco's ETERNAL2.PRG dated 1/30/87 anon. VEROFF.PRG (this is the VEROFF half of VEROFFON.UUE from ATARINET) M.R. Singer's TIMEDATE.PRG V1.0 10/25/85 What I did: I was making up the masters for the DISK(s)-OF-THE-MONTH for the OTTAWA ST users group (NCAUG), uudecoding and de-arching goodies from ATARINET, and PROG-A16, and filing the ARCs and the .PRGs on separate disks from the ramdisk. The ARCs went on strait, but the .PRGs, .DOCs, et als were put in folders. (I must have created several dozen folders and copied them hither and yon during the session.) I 'discovered' that there was no need (or did not seem to be) to change the directory in the A window to copy from the RAM disk. I would make a copy of a .UUE file to the RAM disk, UUDECODE it, (UUDECODE.TTP from CANADA01), de-ARC it, and while ARC was still stuck in ... hit any key ... remove the .UUE disk, and put in the .ARC disk, then hit any key. BINGO, there is the ..ARC directory. Point to the .ARC, drag and copy into A. THEN make a .ARC directory. Point to the .ARC, drag and copy into A. THEN make a new folder in D, copy the .PRGs, .DOCs, and things to the folder, and pull out the .ARC disk, and put in the folder disk (NOTE: I have not left the D directory, and the quiet A directory still reads the .ARC directory). Then point to the new folder, click, drag, whizz-whizz- blink, and the A directory reads the contents of the FOLDER disk with the new folder! (look, I've saved several point-ESC cycles. At 3 in the morning, that seemed important!) What it did: Everything looked OK. If I put the FOLDER disk into the drive and hit ESC I got the FOLDER disk directory, but if I pointed to a folder and double-clicked to open it ... whizz-whizz-blink ... I got the same directory. All the folders 'THOUGHT' they had all the other folders inside them! (hence the name Russian Doll). If I did a show info on a folder, I got No. of Fol: 0; No of ITEMS: 0; and Bytes used: 0. Now if I closed the window and reopened it all was well. Show info did the normal thing and I could read and copy files. Questions: 1) is this new? (can I name it) 2) is it the 40 folder thing? ... and what are the symptoms 3) is it the underscore thing? (did I neglect to mention that I use _underscores_a_lot in filenames, and folders? I've never been burned before.) 4) is there some incompatibility in the programs that I used? 5) is there a TROGEN-HORSE on ATARINET or PROG-A16? (this beast seems to be infectious, the copies all have it). I could not resist testing some of the new thing just to see what they did. 6) is the procedure that I described above expressly prohibited on pg1 of the ST owner's manual? Any help or explanations would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. /JT John Turnbull, NETNORTH: 051332@UOTTAWA 30 Somerset Ave, BITNET: 051332@UOTTAWA Dept. of Biology, ARPANET: 051332%UOTTAWA.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU Univ. of Ottawa, uucp: ...!psuvax1!051332%uotawa.BITNET Ottawa, Ontario, JANET: 051332%uottawa@rl.earn CANADA, K1N 6N5. ICBM: 45 25' 33'' N 75 39' 05'' W