Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!ll-xn!ames!amdahl!drivax!socha From: socha@drivax.UUCP (Henri J. Socha (x6251)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Better Windows? (& other topics), An explanation Message-ID: <1569@drivax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 14-May-87 20:36:56 EDT Article-I.D.: drivax.1569 Posted: Thu May 14 20:36:56 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 16-May-87 12:17:45 EDT References: <565@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> <18881@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <1568@drivax.UUCP> Reply-To: socha@drivax.UUCP (Henri J. Socha (x6251)) Distribution: world Organization: Digital Research, Monterey Lines: 56 Keywords: Windows User Interface Summary: Its all around if we can but see it. Xref: mnetor comp.sys.amiga:4820 comp.sys.mac:3157 comp.sys.atari.st:3458 comp.sys.ibm.pc:4027 In Message-ID: <1568@drivax.UUCP> I wrote (and others here have commented on): > This, I greatly disagree with. GEM from DRI is a very fast environment. > **** WARNING: Commercials follow *** >In case you didn't notice it, I must admit that I work for Digital Research, >the originator of GEM (and the products to be mentioned below.) >** see GEM applications running on the PS/2 Model 50. <<>> >Now, while I have your attention and while we are talking about >preceived vs actual capabilities. >Many industry #$@!s have stated that you can't do multitasking on a PC ... >Concurrent DOS XM (Expanded Memory) will run 4 applications ... >FlexOS (Flexible Operating System) is a full real-time, multi-user, ... [And lots of other stuff about DRI and Datapoint I will not mention again.] WELL, there was commercialism in that article but it is saddly there on purpose. The commercial was a too obvious sidelight. I was raising a point. The commercialism existed as the only means I could think of to make it obvious. The point was a strong reply to the statement that you can't do graphics on a PC. And by that the original author seemed to mean Windows (and only Windows). I had to use the examples and the directness of it to get across that the issue is very often a preceived view of machine capabilities as defined by known products. Sometimes excellent products are unknown to the marketplace. I have no doubt that most people reading the net have not seen GEM run. I have no doubt that there are better products than GEM existing somewhere. I have no doubt that there are better operating systems than FlexOS, XM, etc. I also have no doubt that these better products are also generally unknown. So, again I state: SORRY for the commercialism. But, I felt I had to do it in replying to points made by others that PC-DOS 3.x is it for a PC and you can't get a reasonable Windowing environment because the machine just is not powerfull enough. There is software that CAN and DOES make it powerfull enough. Its just we (in general) don't know about it. --------------- "And we thank you again for your patronage" -------------- -- UUCP:...!amdahl!drivax!socha WAT Iron'75 "Everything should be made as simple as possible but not simpler." A. Einstein