Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!ljdickey From: ljdickey@water.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.lang.apl,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: APL.68000 information request (also for PClones) Message-ID: <949@water.UUCP> Date: Sat, 16-May-87 14:13:53 EDT Article-I.D.: water.949 Posted: Sat May 16 14:13:53 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 17-May-87 01:48:01 EDT References: <6487@amdahl.UUCP> Reply-To: ljdickey@water.UUCP (Lee Dickey) Distribution: world Organization: U. of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 33 Keywords: APL Spencer Organization 68000 STSC Xref: utgpu comp.sys.amiga:4573 comp.lang.apl:38 comp.sys.atari.st:3285 comp.sys.mac:2935 comp.sys.ibm.pc:3605 I have just returned from APL87 held this past week in Dallas. Both companies, Spencer Organization and STSC, were had booths in the exhibit area. I agree with comments made previously that STSC has an excellent product and would add that APL.68000 is also an excellent product. Timing tests may sometines be deceiving, but I mention that on some tests, APL.68000 on the Mac is about 5 times as fast as STSC's APL*PLUS on the Mac. The reason for the speed of the APL.68000 is that it is written in hand crafted assembly code. A very nice advantage, indeed. This product has been around for several years, and has most of the bugs shaken out of it by now. (You might have seen it on Wycat for instance.) The major marketing thrust now is for the Atari ST, the Mac, and the Commodore Amiga and the ports wore done in that order. Hence, claim the developers, the Amiga version has the best interface of the three. One representative from STSC claims that they have uniformity across different versions. Among others, they offer versions for the Sun, the IBM PC, and for the Apple Macintosh. The Mac version seems to be descended from a product called PortaAPL, previously of Cambridge, Massachussets. Since STSC claims now to have uniformity, it looks to me as though they bought the Mac interface and the customer base and plans to expand on that. In recent years, STSC has brought many developments to APL, including nested arrays. Maybe these things will be coming to to the micro versions. The company provides excellent user support. -- L. J. Dickey, Faculty of Mathematics, University of Waterloo. ljdickey@water.UUCP ljdickey%water@waterloo.CSNET ljdickey%water%waterloo.csnet@csnet-relay.ARPA ljdickey@watdcs.BITNET UUCP: ...!watmath!water!ljdickey