Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ll-xn!husc6!seismo!mcvax!ukc!dcl-cs!bath63!pes From: pes@bath63.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Megamax bug or crappy C ? Message-ID: <1190@bath63.ux63.bath.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 21-May-87 12:31:33 EDT Article-I.D.: bath63.1190 Posted: Thu May 21 12:31:33 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 23-May-87 08:16:30 EDT References: <756@klipper.cs.vu.nl> Reply-To: pes@ux63.bath.ac.uk (Paul Smee) Organization: AUCC c/o University of Bath Lines: 20 K&R have almost the identical example, at the end of chapter 2. The quick answer is, they're both right. From K&R: 'In any expression involving side effects, thre can be subtle dependencies on the order in which variables taking part in the expression are stored. One unhappy situation is typified by the statement a[i] = i++; The question is whether the subscript is the old value of i or the new. The compiler can do this in different ways, and generate different answers depending on its interpretation. When side effects (assignment to actual variables) takes place is left to the discretion of the compiler, since the best order strongly depends on machine architecture. The moral of this discussion is that writing code which depends on order of evaluation is a bad practice in any language.' I'd say that applies to your slightly fancier example, as well, meself. And I *believe* that even the proposed ANSI standard doesn't tighten this up much, if at all -- though I don't track it very closely so may be wrong.