Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!clyde!cbatt!neoucom!wtm From: wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Help with recovering hard disk Message-ID: <580@neoucom.UUCP> Date: Sat, 9-May-87 12:56:00 EDT Article-I.D.: neoucom.580 Posted: Sat May 9 12:56:00 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 10-May-87 08:54:24 EDT References: <203@houxj.UUCP> <263@silver.bacs.indiana.edu> Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Lines: 51 Keywords: HD low level formatter Summary: additional information about Norton's FR. FR, the Norton 4.0 format recovery routine *must* be run in the preventative mode-- ie: FR /SAVE from your autoexec file. What FR does is to copy the FAT and directory structure of your disk to a DOS file. When you boot from a floppy disk after loosing your FAT or ROOT directory, you can invoke FR without options. FR then reads the HDU sector by sector looking for its unique tag that it starts its data sectors with. It can then work backwards and reconstruct the FAT and file system. A low level format or a media verification will most certainly destory any possibility of recovering any of the original data unless your initials are NSA (grin). FR operates on the assumption that most hard disk formatters do nothing more than erase the FAT and the ROOT directory, then simply do a read verification on the remainder of the disk. Some versions of FORMAT-- AT&T previous to DOS, release 3.01 and the Compaq, damage the data in all the sectors of the disk, thus rendering FR useless. Although FR could try to work backwards by scanning the disk for sectors that were potential subdirectories, and using them to rebuild the file system, it makes no attempt to do so. In such a case, it would be impossible (virtually so, at least) to recover any to the files as opposed to directories in ROOT since the format customarily zeroizes ALL of the ROOT area (typically 512 entries). Just last week, an errant episode of MS-LINK (really, honest) trashed the ROOT directory of my own computer. I had not done an FR /SAVE, but lucky me had recently printed a hardcopy of the file entries, which I typed back in by hand. It was also much easier to locate the clusters that belonged to the files, as I regularly use a tune-up program to de-fragment my disk. I also keep the files in alphabetical order as much as possible to make them easier to find. I also try to minimize the number of files in ROOT, and keep everything in subdirectories, since it is very easy to identifify sectors that are subdirectories and restore their entries in ROOT. By taking the steps I mentioned above, you can probably recover from a crash that is not due to hardware error in just a few minutes. Norton or another popular disk sector editor is required to do the patching. You can use DEBUG, but it is rather inconvenient compared to programs that are optimized for disk sector editing. With floppy diskettes, the entire disk is low-level formatted every time, thus there is no possibility of recovering a floppy with FR. The Paul Mace utilities offer essentially the same thing as Norton with the same caviats as Norton. My experience has been that Norton is the better (that is to say easier to use) of the two utilities. --Bill (wtm@neoucom.UUCP)