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From: steven@pearl.berkeley.edu (Stephen the Greatest)
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Subject: Re: dsb unix vs. dec's vms
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Date: Sat, 16-May-87 14:04:34 EDT
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In article <34ab0e42.8be4@apollo.uucp> jps@apollo.uucp (Jeffrey P. Snover) writes:
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>>I know that bsd unix outperforms vms; I also know by
>>experience that vms interfaces (to programs and other
>>users) are quite bad.
>
>I am so stunned by this comment I don't know where to begin.
>You left your thinking cap at home today didn't you?
>You "KNOW" that bsd unix outperfoms vms do you? What is the
>basis of this "KNOWLEDGE".  If you have this "KNOWLEDGE",
>as you claim, then why are you posting this request.
>
>VMS interfaces "are quite bad" ?  REALLY!  I have worked
>with both UNIX and VMS for many years and whereas VMS
>does have its weakness, I don't think that any sentine


I have been working intensively with 4.3BSD UNIX and VAX/VMS V4.?.  I think
VMS definitely out-performs UNIX in number-crunching operations, but UNIX
is strong in its I/O interface.  Also, I hate the shell (or command inter-
pretor) in VMS.  Why can't anybody in DEC write something like C-Shell?
I think VMS is absolutely able to support a C-Shell-like command interface.
Also, the primary language for VMS (as least I think) is FORTRAN while UNIX
is C.  This does tells us something about the strengths of each operating
systems.  Personally, I like BSD UNIX better.

				- Stephen Chung