Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!gatech!hao!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!lewis@cel.fmc.COM From: lewis@cel.fmc.COM (Bil Lewis) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: On backups Message-ID: <7534@brl-adm.ARPA> Date: Tue, 26-May-87 11:27:39 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-adm.7534 Posted: Tue May 26 11:27:39 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 28-May-87 02:02:10 EDT Sender: news@brl-adm.ARPA Lines: 28 For facilities like BRL with heavy scientific and engineering applications , it is not uncommon for a single scientist to produce 300+ Mbytes of "new" (different) data. Each machine (even the aging VAXen) tends to have >2 Gbytes each, and we have serveral dozen machines. Your strategy, while nice, does not address this type of environment. But Mike, you certainly don't mean to claim that each scientist is typing in at the rate of... 3k/second! So what you mean is you are CHANGING 300+ MB. The real question is the regeneration costs vs. the archiving costs. For our vision folks, that cost is zilch. What is it for yours? When I was visiting Martin Marietta in ~1980, they described their backup system (for their PDP-11/70 IS/1 UNIX systems) that is virtually the same as your system. (sorry). Sorry? EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD has already been thought of by someone. The real question is what they do (or don't do) with the ideas. We're saving est. $50k/year with it. We're quite pleased. Plus the fact, I have seen absolutely nothing published, so I'll get a cheap paper out of it too. My very last act at FMC (I'm leaving Fri) is a real winner. No need for sadness here! Regards -Bilu