Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!seismo!mcvax!ukc!its63b!hwcs!aimmi!gilbert From: gilbert@aimmi.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.windows.news Subject: Re: NeWS and X Message-ID: <24@aimmi.UUCP> Date: Thu, 21-May-87 07:14:32 EDT Article-I.D.: aimmi.24 Posted: Thu May 21 07:14:32 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 23-May-87 08:33:10 EDT References: <8705151216.AA00774@maximo.uucp> Reply-To: gilbert@aimmi.UUCP (Gilbert Cockton) Distribution: world Organization: Heriot-Watt/Strathclyde Alvey MMI Unit, Scotland Lines: 28 In article <8705151216.AA00774@maximo.uucp> version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site aimmi.UUCP aimmi!hwcs!its63b!ukc!mcvax!seismo!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!maximo.UUCP!mo mo@maximo.UUCP writes: >Why is it that anyone who thinks they understand >TECO and/or EMACS can build a user interface??? >I got big news for them. If X becomes the >defacto window standard for window systems >you can completely kiss-off the real >commercial marketplace. It completely >fulfills everyone's worst fears and nightmares >about UNIX. > >The simple fact is that designing REALLY GOOD >user interfaces is astonishingly hard ... and simply being >able to hack your favorite programming language >is neither necessary nor sufficient. Hear, hear - I go along with much of your flaming, but from past experience of the USENET milieu, I think your comments will fall on stoney ground. Despair not, most commercial users don't get UNIX systems. Those who do are increasingly getting a cleaned up proprietry shell thrown in by the suppliers. Cleaning up hackers' user interfaces is a profitable sideline for some firms, so don't make too much noise about the ergonomic incompetence of the average unwashed UNIX guru - you could wipe out a tidy little market if they got wise :-) -- Gilbert Cockton, Scottish HCI Centre, Ben Line Building, Edinburgh, EH1 1TN JANET: gilbert@uk.ac.hw.aimmi ARPA: gilbert%aimmi.hw.ac.uk@cs.ucl.ac.uk UUCP: ..!{backbone}!aimmi.hw.ac.uk!gilbert