Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbatt!cwruecmp!hal!ncoast!allbery From: allbery@ncoast.UUCP Newsgroups: news.admin,news.groups Subject: Re: net.sources -> ? Message-ID: <2500@ncoast.UUCP> Date: Mon, 11-May-87 21:23:36 EDT Article-I.D.: ncoast.2500 Posted: Mon May 11 21:23:36 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 16-May-87 05:08:56 EDT References: <6095@hi.UUCP> <332@wolf.UUCP> <237@sandia.UUCP> Reply-To: allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery) Followup-To: news.admin Organization: Cleveland Public Access UN*X, Cleveland, Oh Lines: 61 Xref: utgpu news.admin:380 news.groups:743 As quoted from <237@sandia.UUCP> by marms@sandia.UUCP (Mike Arms): +--------------- | I, too, have been disturbed that the unmoderated net.sources group was | being replaced by the moderated comp.sources.misc group. As has been | pointed out, the moderator of the misc sources group will often not be | able to execute the packages and even do a rudimentary test for functionality, | completeness, or detection of "trojan horses". +--------------- Note that the packages which need this belong elsewhere. I am making arrange- ments to get a C compiler other than Mix C, but I can't test VMS sources. (The solution for both is separate source groups, really. The moderator for a VMS source group ought to be on a Eunice site.) I *can* and *will* test Un*x sources. +--------------- | On the other hand, we get none of the other usual benefits of moderation | while accepting the normal delays involved in going thru a moderator. | Wading thru all of the chaff in net.sources was made worthwhile by the | gems that could sometimes be found there. Often authors would post short | utilities or early releases of large systems (UNaXcess). Also, if the | misc sources group was unmoderated, we could get those code postings | out of the system groups such as comp.sys.ibm.pc. +--------------- I find it very interesting that you mention UNaXcess...! (Almost contra- dictory to your posting.) Note that these kinds of things WILL be accepted and WILL be tested. Again, the "no testing" was directed at MS-DOS and VMS sources. (Of course, if someone wants to donate me a MicroVAX II running VMS, I won't say no....) (Anti-VMS flamers stick it; the two really can't be compared, they are intended for different purposes.) +--------------- | I would like voice support for changing comp.sources.misc from moderated | to unmoderated (sorry Brandon). I welcome all discussion of this topic, | pro or con. I do feel this discussion should be public rather than e-mail. | Thank you for your consideration of this topic. +--------------- I originally got into this when we tried to set up a moderated MS-DOS sources group (which fell through, as usual). If someone will set this up and someone will set up a VMS sources group, then comp.sources.misc will be guaranteed all the advantages of moderation (within reason; only a Sun can test the Sun morse code program, would this be a reason to un- moderate a sources group on seismo?). Alternatively, someone at a local VMS site could give me a login so I can test the VMS stuff, and I can get the C compiler for MS-DOS. ++Brando (moderator of comp.sources.misc) -- Copyright (C) 1987 Brandon S. Allbery -- you can redistribute only if your recipients can. Brandon S. Allbery {decvax,cbatt,cbosgd}!cwruecmp!ncoast!allbery Tridelta Industries {ames,mit-eddie,talcott}!necntc!ncoast!allbery 7350 Corporate Blvd. necntc!ncoast!allbery@harvard.HARVARD.EDU Mentor, OH 44060 +01 216 255 1080 (also eddie.MIT.EDU)