Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!gatech!hao!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!jade!brahms!desj From: desj@brahms.UUCP Newsgroups: news.stargate Subject: Re: At long last, we have found the stargate archives! Message-ID: <3646@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Tue, 19-May-87 22:16:32 EDT Article-I.D.: jade.3646 Posted: Tue May 19 22:16:32 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 21-May-87 05:36:38 EDT References: <965@vortex.UUCP> <7946@utzoo.UUCP> <7947@utzoo.UUCP> <1870@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> <236@brandx.rutgers.edu> <567@hadron.UUCP> Sender: usenet@jade.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: desj@brahms.Berkeley.EDU (David desJardins) Organization: UC Berkeley Math Dept [IN EXILE] Lines: 18 In article <567@hadron.UUCP> jsdy@hadron.UUCP (Joseph S. D. Yao) quotes some definitions which purport to show that the word "heckle" has the negative connotation of harassment. It is clear from any dictionary worthy of the name that the original meaning is merely one of hostile interrogation, but not necessarily with an intent to harass rather than to inform. The OED: 3. trans. To catechize severely, with a view to discover the weak points of the person interrogated. Long applied in Scot- land to the public questioning of parliamentary candidates. Also absol. By this standard any cross-examiner, interrogator, or other hostile questioner clearly qualifies as a "heckler"; any presumption of intent is unwarranted. Any additional connotation is a quite modern addition (since the OED does not even *mention* a negative connotation). -- David desJardins