Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!pioneer!eugene From: eugene@pioneer.UUCP Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: bank card Message-ID: <1588@ames.UUCP> Date: Tue, 19-May-87 22:40:48 EDT Article-I.D.: ames.1588 Posted: Tue May 19 22:40:48 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 21-May-87 01:17:39 EDT References: <599@umnd-cs.D.UMN.EDU> <5747@eddie.MIT.EDU> <27595@rochester.ARPA> <3422@sunybcs.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ames.UUCP Reply-To: eugene@pioneer.UUCP (Eugene Miya N.) Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. Lines: 20 During the mid-1970s, I had a job designing thin film circuitry for Information Magnetics in Goleta (Santa Barbara). About this time I picked up my student VISA card. We were designed two development systems: a 50,000 BPI tape drive and the first mag stripe readers. We were given fake bank cards to run thru the readers (210 BPI), but one day I was sitting there, and I had this card of mine, and I ran it thru, I could read it. No the PIN is not kept on the card (obvious security problems). At the time only the account numbers were placed on cards. The PIN is determined by the account numbers (or some other algorithm the manufacturer decides). From the Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers: --eugene miya NASA Ames Research Center eugene@ames-aurora.ARPA "You trust the `reply' command with all those different mailers out there?" "Send mail, avoid follow-ups. If enough, I'll summarize." {hplabs,hao,ihnp4,decwrl,allegra,tektronix,menlo70}!ames!aurora!eugene