Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!oliveb!pyramid!prls!mips!mark From: mark@mips.UUCP Newsgroups: rec.aviation,sci.electronics,rec.audio Subject: Noise-cancelling microphone Message-ID: <1027@mips.UUCP> Date: Tue, 19-May-87 20:42:19 EDT Article-I.D.: mips.1027 Posted: Tue May 19 20:42:19 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 21-May-87 06:54:13 EDT Lines: 35 Xref: utgpu rec.aviation:1297 sci.electronics:633 rec.audio:1407 I recently read (in Aviation Week & Space Technology) an article about a noise-cancellation system for military pilots' helmets. Seems that military cockpits are _very_ noisy, with helicopter blades whooshing, fighter engines roaring, etc, so the pilot can barely hear his/her radio. The new system puts a microphone in each earcup, and uses the resulting signal to measure the "error" at the pilot's ear [error == signal at ear minus signal from radio] and thus cancel much of the ambient noise (about 30 dB as I recall). So the pilot hears the radio but not the loud powerplant. Pretty cool. If memory serves, the whole system is contained in a cigarette-pack sized box that goes in the pilot's pocket (so the aircraft isn't modified, just the helmet). Noise cancellation is done with digital circuitry. Now, a few questions: 1. Has anybody out there experimented with this sort of thing? How well did it work? 2. Could a hobbyist-grade version be built on the cheap, using e.g. analog circuits for the signal processing? Or is the major cost the modified earpieces with mikes? 3. Can the idea be used "backward" to make a microphone which cancels ambient cockpit noise and only picks up the pilot's voice? For example, have a 2nd mike that faces _away_ from the pilot, and use this signal as an approximation of the "error" (ambient noise). Or is this already available per Scott Dorsey's recommendation of the "Telex noise-cancelling element"? Regards, -- -Mark Johnson **DISCLAIMER: The opinions above are personal.** Hi Max! UUCP: {decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!decwrl!mips!mark TEL: 408-720-1700 x208 USmail: MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086