Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!hao!husc6!ut-sally!turpin From: turpin@ut-sally.UUCP Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Uncertainty in life Message-ID: <8135@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Tue, 26-May-87 09:37:17 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-sally.8135 Posted: Tue May 26 09:37:17 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 27-May-87 03:28:28 EDT References: <6762@mimsy.UUCP> <3977@sdcc3.ucsd.EDU> Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 18 Keywords: Heisenberg certain Summary: Poor Godel, so often maligned. In article <3977@sdcc3.ucsd.EDU>, ma188saa@sdcc3.ucsd.EDU (Steve Bloch) writes: > I just thought of something: a consistent logician cannot believe > in its own consistency IF IT HAS READ GOEDEL. Think again. (Perhaps after studying a logic text.) Godel's *incompleteness* theorems simply say that your hypothetical logician, if consistent, might come across unprovable statements. In the first order predicate calculus, for example, there are fully quantified statements that can neither be proven or disproven. Such a statement, or its denial, can be as an axiom to the system, which remains consistent thereby. Godel is second only to Einstein in having pseudophilosophical claptrap "based" on his work. Poor Godel. Russell