Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!mimsy!flink From: flink@mimsy.UUCP Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech,sci.physics Subject: Re: Aspect Experiment, Bell's inequalities, and Meaning of QM Message-ID: <6791@mimsy.UUCP> Date: Tue, 26-May-87 23:23:35 EDT Article-I.D.: mimsy.6791 Posted: Tue May 26 23:23:35 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 28-May-87 04:24:34 EDT References: <1275@cci632.UUCP> <766@klipper.cs.vu.nl> <650@pbhyc.UUCP> <19028@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: flink@mimsy.UUCP (Paul V Torek) Followup-To: sci.philosophy.tech,sci.physics Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Lines: 18 Keywords: aspect superluminance hidden variables Bell's inequality Xref: utgpu sci.philosophy.tech:85 sci.physics:1388 Summary: And another question... kube@cogsci.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Paul Kube) writes: >So, everybody, what do you want to give up: the impossibility of FTL >information transfer, that the particle was spinning happily left all >along, or the relevance of mathematics for physics? Good question; here's another: if we take the second option, what are the philosophical implications, if any? Might we take the Aspect et. al. experiments to show merely that, at least in the case of "spin" etc., we have picked the wrong concepts with which to describe the real world? By the way, I think you should say "FTL causal influence" rather than "FTL information transfer". The collapse of a wave-packet in the Aspect experiments, even if interpreted as involving FTL causal influence, would not be useful for communication. I'll let a more QM-fluent netter explain why. Please direct followups to whichever group(s) are appropriate, and only those. -- Paul Torek flink@mimsy.umd.edu