Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!seismo!mcvax!botter!klipper!biep From: biep@klipper.UUCP Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech,sci.physics Subject: Re: Aspect Experiment, Bell's inequalities, and Meaning of QM Message-ID: <770@klipper.cs.vu.nl> Date: Wed, 27-May-87 04:37:29 EDT Article-I.D.: klipper.770 Posted: Wed May 27 04:37:29 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 29-May-87 00:50:49 EDT References: <1275@cci632.UUCP> <766@klipper.cs.vu.nl> <650@pbhyc.UUCP> <19028@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: biep@cs.vu.nl (J. A. "Biep" Durieux) Organization: VU Informatica, Amsterdam Lines: 26 Keywords: aspect superluminance hidden variables Bell's inequality Xref: utgpu sci.philosophy.tech:99 sci.physics:1395 In article <766@klipper.cs.vu.nl> biep@cs.vu.nl (J. A. "Biep" Durieux) writes: >... So the information that you observed your particle must have travelled >in zero time to the other half-wit. FTL information transfer. In article <650@pbhyc.UUCP> djo@pbhyc.UUCP (Dan'l Oakes) writes: >... Physicists become so used to manipulating equations that they >confuse them with the particles they describe. >... The particle has been spinning very happily left all along. In article <19028@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>, kube@cogsci.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Paul Kube) writes: >OK, it's time somebody brought up Bell. >So, everybody, what do you want to give up: the impossibility of FTL >information transfer, that the particle was spinning happily left all >along, or the relevance of mathematics for physics? >--Paul kube@berkeley.edu, ...!ucbvax!kube Too bad Einstein already has thrown away the ether. Isn't there some other concept we might want to get rid of (other than observer-independent behaviour)? -- Biep. (biep@cs.vu.nl via mcvax) When a doctor doctors a doctor, does the doctoring doctor doctor the doc- tored doctor with the doctoring doctor's doctrine, or does the doctoring doctor doctor the doctored doctor with the doctored doctor's doctrine?