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From: daver@felix.UUCP (Dave Richards)
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Subject: Re: Life imitates art?
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Date: Thu, 28-May-87 17:36:41 EDT
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In article <724@bsu-cs.UUCP> 00psdunn@bsu-cs.UUCP (Paul S. Dunn) writes:
>> In article <2816@felix.UUCP> daver@felix.UUCP (Dave Richards) writes:
>> 
>> >That's funny.  In biology I was taught that humans ARE apes.  Maybe you mean
>> >"all OTHER apes have 48 chromosomes", but I don't know if that is true.
>> 
>As I recall from my biology days, the scientists who believe in evolution hold
>that humans and apes evolved from common ancestors, but are NOT the same spe-
>cies. (Different branches on the evolutionary tree.)

Please don't put words in my mouth.  I did not say that humans and apes were 
the same species.  I said that humans are apes.  In other words, that humans
are in the same taxonomic category with other apes (chimpanzees, gorillas, 
etc.).  I may have been premature.  Upon checking I find that man and ape are
both PRIMATES and HOMINOIDS, but the word "APE" seems to be used only for
the Pongidae family.  Since humans are the only existing members of the 
Hominid family, you could say that I was off by one level. 

If anyone is interested, here are the specific taxonomic categories for man 
and ape:

		MAN				APE
Kingdom: 	Animalia (animals)		Animalia
Phylum:		Chordata (chordates)		Chordata
Subphylum:	Vertebrata (vertebrates)	Vertebrata
Class:		Mammalia (mammals)		Mammalia
Order:		Primates			Primates
superfamily:	Hominoidea (hominoids)		Hominoidea
--------------same---up---to---this---point-------------------------------
Family:		Hominidae (hominids)		Pongidae ("apes")
Genus:		Homo				(various types)
Species: 	Homo Sapiens			   "       "

I believe that the quantitative physical difference between humans and other
Hominoids is something pretty slight, like one more bone in the inner ear,
or something.

I don't have a biology book here, so this is information is compiled from the
dictionary and memory.  Someone who has better info. can correct me if this
is wrong.

Dave