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Subject: Re: Life imitates art?
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Date: Wed, 3-Jun-87 23:21:20 EDT
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> In article <225@chemstor.UUCP>, bob@chemstor.UUCP (Robert Weigel) writes:
> > 
> > and randomness. Either way, I'm not in control,.. right!!  My Bible says God
> > created the creatures out of the dirt, but he made man in his image.( With a
> > free will too!)Somehow, that seems to fit reality a little better in view of
> > who I am.  But keep on matching those Chromosomes! 
> >  
> These types eventually show up everywhere, don't they? Just like weeds.
> 
> -- 
> 
> 					-- Chris. (cycy@isl1.ri.cmu.edu)


  No need to get vaguely insulting, now, Chris. 8-)

  Personally, I think we were all put here by love aliens, who are at this
  very moment controlling all the world leaders, especially James McEnroe.
  (I read it in the Regurgitator! 8-)

  BUT, in any case, just a little note concerning the state of creationism/
  evolution in the schools.

  Due to circumstances beyond my limited ability to be appreciative of, I
  was forced this quarter to take Biological Sciences 1.
  (Don't even ASK why. I get irritated even now...)

   About two days ago, we got onto (Ooooooooohhhhh, *gasp*) EVOLUTION!
   (My, what a bizzare new concept. This was almost more than I could
    handle, coming right after 3 hours of Punnet Squares and Mendelian
    Genetics. I think I remained awake for about 1/2 hour out of the last
    5... also pulled an A on the midterm ysterday, which gives you some
    idea of my impressions of the value of this section as new material 8-)

    The professor, who admittedly wanders even more than I do from his
    main topic (thought it was impossible, didn't you? 8-)
    spent 45 minutes explaining why he was teaching evolution, and that
    he didn't care if we BELIEVED it, just so we knew the theory...
    (He then used the Galapagos Islands, the horse, etc. He also informed
     us that there are no remnants of the 2nd and 3rd toes on modern horses,
     and that their backbones are now fused vertebrae. I was fascinated.
     Apparantly splint bones do not exist, and horses have an I-beam for
     a spine. Gee, the ones I ride, work with, etc. must all be defective
     or broken... 8-)

     So out of that hour, 3/4 of it was spent excusing himself.

     He also related to us that certain ultra-fundamental religeous 
     goups have actually "planted" members in his classes in past years,
     to ask what they thought would be embarrasing questions about
     "flaws" in evolution. 

     Just thought it was kind of weird, and also irritating.

     When was the last time you heard a preist excuse himself for teaching
     creationism, or of paleontologists planting members in churches...?
      
      Ok, I'm not being snide- I don't care WHAT anyone believes.
      Just leave me alone, and don't try to force me to hide my beliefs
      or change them.
      I'll do the same.

				      Eric
Disclaimer: This is mine, not my employers. They are/were not involved.