Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!sri-unix!ctnews!pyramid!prls!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka From: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.cog-eng Subject: Re: The symbol grounding problem: Correction re. Approximationism Message-ID: <2237@mmintl.UUCP> Date: Wed, 1-Jul-87 21:19:35 EDT Article-I.D.: mmintl.2237 Posted: Wed Jul 1 21:19:35 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Jul-87 13:20:34 EDT References: <764@mind.UUCP> <768@mind.UUCP> <770@mind.UUCP> <6174@diamond.BBN.COM> <1172@houdi.UUCP> <923@mind.UUCP> Reply-To: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Organization: Multimate International, E. Hartford, CT. Lines: 21 Xref: mnetor comp.ai:607 comp.cog-eng:176 In article <923@mind.UUCP> harnad@mind.UUCP (Stevan Harnad) writes: |In responding to Cugini and Brilliant I misinterpreted a point that |the former had made and the latter reiterated. It's a point that's |come up before: What if the iconic representation -- the one that's |supposed to be invertible -- fails to preserve some objective property |of the sensory projection? For example, what if yellow and blue at the |receptor go into green at the icon? The reply is that an analog |representation is only analog in what it preserves, not in what it fails |to preserve. I'm afraid when I parse this, using the definitions Harnad uses, it comes out as tautologically true of *all* representations. "Analog" means "invertible". The invertible properties of a representation are those properties which it preserves. Is there some strange meaning of "preserve" being used here? Otherwise, I don't see how this statement has any meaning. -- Frank Adams ihnp4!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka Ashton-Tate 52 Oakland Ave North E. Hartford, CT 06108