Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!gatech!hao!husc6!cmcl2!beta!dzzr From: dzzr@beta.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: chewing up mips with graphics Message-ID: <6328@beta.UUCP> Date: Sun, 14-Jun-87 20:33:38 EDT Article-I.D.: beta.6328 Posted: Sun Jun 14 20:33:38 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 15-Jun-87 05:43:22 EDT References: <8270@amdahl.amdahl.com> <359@rocky2.UUCP> <6240@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP> Organization: Los Alamos Natl Lab, Los Alamos, N.M. Lines: 27 Keywords: simulation processors parrallelism MIPS Summary: Simulation DOES eat MIPS!! Especially when you are doing it in an object oriented AI environment... Does somebody REALLY think we are going to run out of work before we run out of MIPS? Fat chance. My group is developing large-scale discrete event simulations in KEE (Knowledge Engineering Environment - an AI shell) with lots of extra LISP code defining events. We are running on Symbolics 36xx machines. Unfortunately, we have run the technology into the ground several times in the last few years (run times growing out of bound). Luckily, every time we ended up against the wall, technology would spring to the rescue with some kind of hardware speed-up or another. One of our current projects is causing smoke to pour out of a poor overworked 3600: lots of events (10's of thousands in a run) PLUS lots of graphics. Just when things were beginning to look bleak (again) along will come relief Real Soon Now in the form of faster hardware. Symbolics announced a new product called the Ivory LISP-on-a-chip architecture with potential speed increases of 3-5X. Texas Instruments has announced a similar VLSI LISP-on-a-chip product. In another hardware arena the SUN4 RISC machine sounds promising. We already have plans for all of these new, faster machines! --Doug