Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!ll-xn!ames!pioneer!eugene From: eugene@pioneer.arpa (Eugene Miya N.) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: (Karp challenge) Can we move on? Message-ID: <1955@ames.arpa> Date: Fri, 26-Jun-87 16:33:48 EDT Article-I.D.: ames.1955 Posted: Fri Jun 26 16:33:48 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Jun-87 10:46:04 EDT References: <8270@amdahl.amdahl.com> <359@rocky2.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ames.arpa Reply-To: eugene@pioneer.UUCP (Eugene Miya N.) Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. Lines: 21 I do not appear to have positive effect. In the interest of moving on and making this a private discussion, and since I don't see us going anywhere, If people are interested in reading the text of the Karp Challenge, send mail (yet again I have to say this) mail to netlib@anl-mcs.arpa Message body: send karp-challenge from benchmark Whether Brad or any person thinks Alan's criteria are unreasonable [e.g., MIMD to the exclusion of SIMD, or "embarassingly parallel"] or unrealistic, that is between you and Alan. Alan is the person offering the money ($100) as a token jesture (just like the Hellman/Adleman challenges in cryptography). Alan set HIS rules. I can only voice what he says (No SIMD). He will not award it for applications running on existing SIMD designs (including the MPP and the DAP also). If you don't agree, offer your own $100 price and your rules [I would offer to double Alan's bet [Karp conditions], but Alan would not accept], but you cannot tell Alan to award HIS prize under your perception of his rules (which are fairly simple rules). Better to go out and build the hardware and make a mint. --eugene