Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ptsfa!ames!rutgers!seismo!ut-sally!berleant From: berleant@ut-sally.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.cog-eng Subject: Re: The symbol grounding problem Message-ID: <8264@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Sun, 14-Jun-87 23:32:07 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-sally.8264 Posted: Sun Jun 14 23:32:07 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Jun-87 01:17:11 EDT References: <764@mind.UUCP> <768@mind.UUCP> <770@mind.UUCP> <6174@diamond.BBN.COM> <1152@houdi.UUCP> <835@mind.UUCP> Reply-To: berleant@ut-sally.UUCP (Dan Berleant) Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 15 Keywords: icons, categories, symbols, grounding, modularity, cognition Xref: utgpu comp.ai:488 comp.cog-eng:118 In article <835@mind.UUCP> harnad@mind.UUCP (Stevan Harnad) writes: >We cannot objectively verify intrinsic meaningfulness. The Turing test >is the only available criterion. Yes, the Turing test is by definition subjective, and also subject to variable results from hour to hour even from the same judge. But I think I disagree that intrinsic meaningfulness cannot be objectively verified. What about the model theory of logic? Dan Berleant UUCP: {gatech,ucbvax,ihnp4,seismo,kpno,ctvax}!ut-sally!berleant ARPA: ai.berleant@r20.utexas.edu