Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!ll-xn!husc6!diamond.bbn.com!aweinste From: aweinste@Diamond.BBN.COM (Anders Weinstein) Newsgroups: comp.cog-eng Subject: Re: Concepts and Definitions (was Re: The symbol grounding problem) Message-ID: <6864@diamond.BBN.COM> Date: Tue, 30-Jun-87 13:27:05 EDT Article-I.D.: diamond.6864 Posted: Tue Jun 30 13:27:05 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 1-Jul-87 05:41:43 EDT References: <764@mind.UUCP> <768@mind.UUCP> <770@mind.UUCP> <3971@utai.UUCP> Reply-To: aweinste@Diamond.BBN.COM (Anders Weinstein) Organization: BBN Laboratories, Inc., Cambridge, MA Lines: 21 In article <3971@utai.UUCP> tjhorton@ai.UUCP (Timothy J. Horton) writes: >> > Conceptual combination allows us to go >> >from 'tomato' and 'juice' to 'tomato juice'. I assume there is no >> >argument that this new category may be acquired, sight unseen, >> >by symbolic processing. ... >> >>Of course *some* concepts can be acquired by definition. ... > >The first gentleperson did not say anything about definition (or did s/he?) >When/why/how would I ever need a "definition" in order to learn something? The definitional view was the original issue here; it was mentioned (and disparaged) by me in an earlier posting which you do not quote. It is quite tempting to suppose that all complex concepts *must* have implicit definitions in terms of some atomic ones, even if the definitions are largely unconscious. However, it is also fair to say that philosophy has spent two thousand years searching for implicit definitions of concepts without any conspicuous success. What to make of this failure is an interesting issue. Anders Weinstein BBN Labs