Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!munnari!kre From: kre@munnari.oz (Robert Elz) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans Subject: Re: OSI-model software Message-ID: <1707@munnari.oz> Date: Fri, 19-Jun-87 05:46:38 EDT Article-I.D.: munnari.1707 Posted: Fri Jun 19 05:46:38 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 22-Jun-87 01:33:57 EDT References: <1204@botter.cs.vu.nl> <1680@munnari.oz> <192@ditmela.OZ> <943@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> Organization: Comp Sci, Melbourne Uni, Australia Lines: 26 Keywords: osi, iso, internetworking In article <943@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU>, martillo@athena.mit.edu (Yakim Martillo) writes: > ... X.25 level 3 has a flow control window. Anyone who > has tried to run kermit over a PSPDN knows how well all the > transmission windows interact. Huh? I always thought that the problem with kermit over x.25 nets is precisely because kermit doesn't have a windowing flow control scheme (or it has the terminal case, of a window size of 1). That is, kermit sends a packet, then waits for an ack. Packet turnaround in x.25 networks is typically fairly slow, but this is neither a problem with x.25, nor with the windowing scheme (which is effectively a no-op when protocols like traditional kermit are used above it). Rather, its a problem with the comparatively low capacity technology used to implement the networks. I doubt I'm alone in this belief, as I gather that the kermit people are defining a new protocol (extended protocol) with windowing in it, precisely so it will work *better* over x.25 type networks. kre