Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!nbires!isis!udenva!skajihar From: skajihar@udenva.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Teaching Math in the Late Twentieth Century Message-ID: <3797@udenva.UUCP> Date: Tue, 9-Jun-87 11:44:04 EDT Article-I.D.: udenva.3797 Posted: Tue Jun 9 11:44:04 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Jun-87 02:08:37 EDT Organization: U of Denver Lines: 51 Back when I was a lowly freshman, they told us that our university was one of four given a grant to develop a "Twentieth Century" mathematics curriculum (i.e., discrete mathematics) as opposed to the classical curriculum (i.e., continuous mathematics) of the time. Does anyone know who the others were? I graduated this past Saturday (June 6) with neither computer science or math as a major. However, I was inflicted with same experiment that the above suffered because of my chosen field of study. One complaint that I had about some of the classes of the above curriculum was the emphasis that they had on the discrete mathematics. How useful is it to learn graph theory and algorithms for polynomials in a linear algebra course? Is not the usual path one covering matrices and vector spaces? Another complaint was the eventual phasing out of true math courses and increasing the offering of computer science courses. Some classes that were two quarters long were offered only for the first quarter in alternate years. The claim was that no one would teach these courses and that no one would take them. However, rumor had it that many instructors wanted to teach computer courses over math courses because of the money involved. As for the number of students, I had classes of the same level that had half to a third of the students that would take some of these other classes. Last, but not least, is it that cruel to expect that the computer science people have at least a basic understanding of the math that they will use? Granted, as I have been told, this is not always necessary for the fields that many of them take up, but who knows what these people will take up? There are people out in the world who do scientific programming for researchers; if the program crashes, they have no idea of how their code relates to the oriiginal equations that they were given. Moreover, they teach material at junior/senior level that should have been taught in high school. I have been flamed by some of these instructors that I am out of the targeted group, but I wonder if they are not aiming their expectations too low. These are merely the opinions of a dissatisfied graduate of this fine institution's Computer Science and pseudo-Mathematics Department. Just wondering what other people on the net feel about these. Scott Kajihara -- ________________________________________________________________________________ Learn to lie effectively for if you tell people the truth, they will still not believe you. -- Scott Kajihara UUCP: ...!udenva!skajihar BITNET: skajihar@ducair ________________________________________________________________________________