Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!mcvax!ukc!its63b!hwcs!pjbk From: pjbk@cs.hw.ac.uk (Peter King) Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Any Simula-67 fans out there? Message-ID: <1290@brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 26-Jun-87 04:23:42 EDT Article-I.D.: brahma.1290 Posted: Fri Jun 26 04:23:42 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Jul-87 17:38:04 EDT References: <6641@shemp.UCLA.EDU> <626@unc.cs.unc.edu> <606@haddock.UUCP> Reply-To: pjbk@cs.hw.AC.UK (Peter King) Distribution: world Organization: Heriot Watt University, Computer Science Lines: 30 Summary: Norwegian language; Swedish implementation The confusion over where Simula originates should not arise, since it is well documented in the conference on the history of programming languages. It is definitely a product of the Norwegian Computer Center (NCC) in Oslo. The principle designers were O.-J. Dahl and K. Nygaard. For many years the NCC were the distributers of Simula implementations (and the authors of many). The Swedish connection is that the DEC-10 implementation (one of the best, and it was free for many years) was written by a Swedish Defence research establishment. Jacob Palme was heavily involved there. I don't know for certain the origin of ZYQ in the error messages. I suspect that it may be restricted to a small subset of implementations (IBM 360/370 ?), and was chosen so that the error message identifiers would not clash with any of IBM's IER... etc. As always, the best source of information is the Simula newsletter, a free subscription being available from the Association of Simula Users. ASU Secretariat Simula a.s. Postbox 4403, Torshov 0402 Oslo 4 Norway -- Peter King, Computer Science Department JANET: pjbk@uk.ac.hw.cs Heriot-Watt University ARPA: pjbk@cs.hw.ac.uk 79 Grassmarket, Edinburgh EH1 2HJ or pjbk%cs.hw.ac.uk@ucl-cs Phone: (+44) 31 225 6465 Ext. 555 UUCP: ..!ukc!cs.hw.ac.uk!pjbk