Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!mcvax!ukc!eagle!icdoc!dcw From: dcw@doc.ic.ac.uk (Duncan C White) Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Any Simula-67 fans out there? Message-ID: <465@ivax.doc.ic.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 26-Jun-87 11:53:41 EDT Article-I.D.: ivax.465 Posted: Fri Jun 26 11:53:41 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Jul-87 17:41:27 EDT References: <6641@shemp.UCLA.EDU> <626@unc.cs.unc.edu> <606@haddock.UUCP> Reply-To: dcw@doc.ic.ac.uk (Duncan C White) Distribution: world Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, London, UK. Lines: 46 In article <606@haddock.UUCP> karl@haddock.ISC.COM.UUCP (Karl Heuer) writes: >Somehow, I have always been under the impression that it was from Sweden, not >Norway. Which is it really? (And would anyone happen to know the >significance of the string "ZYQ" in that compiler?) > >Karl W. Z. Heuer (ima!haddock!karl or karl@haddock.isc.com), The Walking Lint >(I've expanded the distribution to "world" for this subdiscussion.) To quote from SIMULA BEGIN: [page 10: Preface] + ...the programming language SIMULA .. was designed by three of the authors + [of SIMULA BEGIN] whilst staff members at the Norwegian Computing Centre + Oslo. The confusion may arise because all the copies I've seen of SIMULA BEGIN [2nd Edition] are printed in Sweden. 'Fraid I know nothing about the meaning of ZYQ, though.... still, a little mystery is good for the soul. :-) This discussion started by someone asking about good SIMULA tutorials/books. My vote goes on "The Green Book" [ that is, "Introduction to SIMULA-67", by Gunther Lamprecht, ISBN 3-528-13340-6, printed in Bremen, Germany ] When I recently wanted to know the syntax of 'virtual', I turned first to SIMULA BEGIN, and found two references in the index: 1). a one paragraph comment introducing the concept, but not making the syntax clear, and 2). a table of reserved words! I then turned to the green book, and it had only one reference in the index, but it gave a proper example, making the syntax a lot clearer! Duncan. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- JANET address : dcw@uk.ac.ic.doc| Snail Mail : Duncan White, --------------------------------| Dept of Computing, This space intentionally | Imperial College, left blank...... | 180 Queen's Gate, (paradoxical excerpt from | South Kensington, IBM manuals) | London SW7 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tel: UK 01-589-5111 x 4982/4991 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------