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From: tombre@crin.UUCP (Karl Tombre)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc
Subject: Re: Any Simula-67 fans out there?
Message-ID: <278@crin.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 3-Jul-87 14:25:11 EDT
Article-I.D.: crin.278
Posted: Fri Jul  3 14:25:11 1987
Date-Received: Sat, 4-Jul-87 17:51:31 EDT
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Reply-To: tombre@crin.UUCP (Karl Tombre)
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Summary: IT IS NORWEGIAN !!!

In article <606@haddock.UUCP> karl@haddock.ISC.COM.UUCP (Karl Heuer) writes:
>Somehow, I have always been under the impression that it was from Sweden, not
>Norway.  Which is it really?  (And would anyone happen to know the
>significance of the string "ZYQ" in that compiler?)
>

It is Norwegian. Simula-67 was created by people from the University of Oslo
and the Norwegian Computing Center. In 1984 a company was created "to
develop and market SIMULA systems and derived products". Their address :

   Simula a.s.
   Forskningsveien 1B
   Postboks 335, Blindern
   N-0314 Oslo 3, Norway

Some Simula systems come also from Sweden, but that started later. People at
Lund University were involved very early with the language, and if I'm not
erring the book "SIMULA Begin" was first published in Sweden. the Lund
Software House AB was created this year for selling the Lund Simula system.

Among the creators of Simula-67, some are still working on object-oriented
languages. Kristen Nygaard, from the University of Oslo, is working with the
Norwegian Computing Center (once again) and the Universities of Aarhus and
Aalborg in Denmark on a new language, BETA. See for instance :

   "Classification of actions or Inheritance also for methods", by B.B.
Kristensen, O.L. Madsen, B. Moller-Pedersen and K. Nygaard, in Proceedings
of the 2nd European Conference on Object Oriented Programming, paris, June
1987.

or

   "The BETA programming language", to appear (or already appeared?) in
"Research Directions in Object Oriented Programming", ed. B.D. Shriver and
P. Wegner, MIT Press, 1987.

   By the way, the original question was if there were still Simula-7 fans.
The language was probably too modern for its time, but is now recognized as
the first O.O. language. Even if it is not in general use, it has had a
heavy influence on other languages, the best known being C++. Eiffel is also
in the same "school", and several other languages.

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--- Karl Tombre @ CRIN (Centre de Recherche en Informatique de Nancy)
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