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From: andys@genesis.UUCP (a.b.sherman)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,comp.misc
Subject: Re: Hacker Scholarship
Message-ID: <345@genesis.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 18-Jun-87 14:27:18 EDT
Article-I.D.: genesis.345
Posted: Thu Jun 18 14:27:18 1987
Date-Received: Mon, 22-Jun-87 00:51:06 EDT
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Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Middletown, NJ
Lines: 50
Keywords: Wozniak, CU, Apple, security
Summary: Mildly social deviant, my a**
Xref: mnetor misc.headlines:695 comp.misc:699

In article <2757@mtgzz.UUCP>, gcm@mtgzz.UUCP writes:
> 
>   Wonder why we have so many security problems at our comp centers -
> read on.
> 
> ************************************
> From Asbury Park Press (week of 6/15)
> ************************************
> 
> 	        APPLE FOUNDER OFFERS SCHOLARSHIP FOR HACKERS
> 	          - Associated Press
> 
> 	Boulder, CO - Computer whiz Stephen Wozniak has donated $100,000 for
>     a University of Colorado scholarship aimed at developing excellence in
>     computer hackers at his alma mater.
> 	"The value of cracking security codes and understanding them is that 
>     generates incredible knowledge," said Wozniak, one of the original hackers
>     and co-founder of Apple Computer Inc. 
> 	Wozniak said he actually encourages the "mildly" social deviants" to
>     break access and security codes as a way to learn.
> 	As a freshman at CU in 1969, Wozniak tapped into the university's
>     computer system to print out reams of mathematical information. Angry 
>     university officials placed him on probation, and, he said, on the road to
>     Apple Computer.
> 
> 	...nuff said.


First, I think that used to be done here with blue-boxers. 
However toll fraud is now a multi-million dollar industry that is no
longer cute, no longer funny and no longer tolerable to our
business.

Second, I think the social deviance is more than mild when people
hack away at other people's work or learning environment.  It is one
thing to figure out how to become root.  It is quite another to use
that knowledge to make it impossible for other people (NOT faceless
representatives of Ma Bell, but PEOPLE) to do their work.  Somebody
who thinks it's cute to cream the root file system of somebody
else's computer is extremely anti-social.  Real people have their
livelihoods, and professional reputations tied up with the data that
is lost, and suffer from real depression and frustration when it
happens.

Screw Wozniak and send the bastards to jail.
-- 
andy sherman / at&t bell laboratories (medical diagnostic systems)
room 2h-097 / 480 red hill road / middletown, nj 07748
(201) 615-5708 / andys@shlepper.ATT.COM
...The views and opinions are my own.  Who else would want them?