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From: baum@apple.UUCP (Allen J. Baum)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,comp.misc
Subject: Re: Hacker Scholarship
Message-ID: <1102@apple.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 19-Jun-87 15:51:59 EDT
Article-I.D.: apple.1102
Posted: Fri Jun 19 15:51:59 1987
Date-Received: Mon, 22-Jun-87 04:47:45 EDT
References: <2757@mtgzz.UUCP> <345@genesis.UUCP>
Reply-To: baum@apple.UUCP (Allen Baum)
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>In article <345@genesis.UUCP> andys@genesis.UUCP (a.b.sherman) writes:
>In article <2757@mtgzz.UUCP>, gcm@mtgzz.UUCP writes:
>> 
>> 
>> 	        APPLE FOUNDER OFFERS SCHOLARSHIP FOR HACKERS
>> 	          - Associated Press
>> 
>> 	Boulder, CO - Computer whiz Stephen Wozniak has donated $100,000 for
>>     a University of Colorado scholarship aimed at developing excellence in
>>     computer hackers at his alma mater.........
>> 	"The value of cracking security codes and understanding them is that 
>>   generates incredible knowledge," said Wozniak, one of the original hackers
>>     and co-founder of Apple Computer Inc. 
>
>....... I think the social deviance is more than mild when people
>hack away at other people's work or learning environment.  It is one
>thing to figure out how to become root.  It is quite another to use
>that knowledge to make it impossible for other people (NOT faceless
>representatives of Ma Bell, but PEOPLE) to do their work.  Somebody
>who thinks it's cute to cream the root file system of somebody
>else's computer is extremely anti-social.  Real people have their
>livelihoods, and professional reputations tied up with the data that
>is lost, and suffer from real depression and frustration when it
>happens.
>
>Screw Wozniak and send the bastards to jail.

I don't believe Woz is advocating creaming a file system. He is
advocating breaking the file system security, and learning a lot
about the guts of the system in the process (like he did). He
believes this kind of hands-on experience is the best way to learn,
and that people are responsible and wouldn't abuse this system of
learning (I didn't say he wasn't naive and idealistic)
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