Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!mcnc!rti!rcb From: rcb@rti.UUCP (Randy Buckland) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Security Message-ID: <1517@rti.UUCP> Date: Mon, 29-Jun-87 12:20:51 EDT Article-I.D.: rti.1517 Posted: Mon Jun 29 12:20:51 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Jun-87 06:07:08 EDT Reply-To: rcb@rti.UUCP (Randy Buckland) Distribution: world Organization: Research Triangle Institute, NC Lines: 35 I have been watching all the debate over the hacker schloarship and I would like to make a quick survey about security in general. 1. Who has managed or worked seriously on a system that has had a breakin. This does not mean a university system where a student there got a password he should not have. I mean a system where someone outside the business/university who had no business on the system at all got in. a) How did he/she get in? b) Did they do any damage or just use/play with the system? 2. How do you feel about hackers? (pick one) a) Credit to the industry, freedom fighters, security testers? b) Minor annoyance that can be handled with simple precautions c) Major annoyance that takes a lot of time and effort to control. d) Serious problem, need strong laws, shoot the lot of them. Now for some terms to be defined. hacker - Lets just stick to the definition of someone trying to break into a system where they should not be. system - Multiuser computer system with serious information on it pdp-11/vax power or higher. Has things like bank data, company data, researchers programs, etc. (things that would take a lot of effort to replace if damaged.) -- Randy Buckland Research Triangle Institute rcb@rti.rti.org [128.109.139.2] {decvax,ihnp4,seismo}!mcnc!rti-sel!rcb