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From: ed@qtc.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Why no system() under VAX C
Message-ID: <295@qtc.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 12-Jun-87 13:08:22 EDT
Article-I.D.: qtc.295
Posted: Fri Jun 12 13:08:22 1987
Date-Received: Mon, 15-Jun-87 05:58:19 EDT
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Summary: VAX C 2.3 is out (and has system() - well sort of)


Well I just rec'vd VAX C v2.3. The release notes mention'd that the compiler
is closer to home (sys v) BUT the libraries are not available until VMS 4.6
which is not yet shipping (of some kind of 'soft' hold).

Anyway the "system()" function is just one of the new functions.

Complaints:

	1. WHY should layered products become dependant on the version
	   of VMS.  BAD. 

	2. Release notes are part of the installation procedure and no
	   longer (for some time now) on hard copy.  Hey DEC,  how do
	   we know if this product should be installed or not.  If
	   you are telling us that VMS 4.6 is required to make use
	   of VAX C 2.3, then I would not have installed this version
	   yet.  Now your support group is saying that we should
	   actually wait for VMS to catch up.  BAD.

	3. It turns out that VMS HELP is not updated with the release
	   notes anyway, although SYS$HELP:VAXC023.RELEASE_NOTES
	   has the info.

	4. The documentation is now two binders instead of one.  You
	   give us one (the new style) binder and expect us to use
	   the older binder for the other.  I don't mind, but the
	   older binder does not hold the "smaller" binder label.
	   This may seem petty and it really is but hey.  We pay
	   up the nose for DEC products so why not perfection.

I do like DEC products but when I buy a compiler or any product, that is 
what I want.  Not parts and pieces.

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