Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ptsfa!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!CITHEX.CALTECH.EDU!carl From: carl@CITHEX.CALTECH.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: publishing patch (david bolthouse) Message-ID: <870613150632.05t@CitHex.Caltech.Edu> Date: Sat, 13-Jun-87 18:14:51 EDT Article-I.D.: CitHex.870613150632.05t Posted: Sat Jun 13 18:14:51 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Jun-87 01:43:47 EDT Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 16 > On another tack, I just can't imagine a computer which is not available for > a reboot (i.e. at worst 15 minutes) at some scheduled time, let's say 3 > o'clock on a nice Saturday morning. So please save us this destructive > moan about your users! Let me give your imagination some help. Picture the following: A group of physicists spends years designing an experiment to be run on an accelerator someplace (CERN, SLAC, FERMILAB, wherever). They then wait for another extended period of time to get the experiment scheduled on the accelerator. They start the experiment, and have a VAX doing on-line data collection, with some on-line analysis to select only the events of interest. You, as a system manager, then tell them that they're going to lose 15 minutes of data so that you can perform an elective reboot of the system. I guarantee, they won't be pleased. Yes, a system can always be rebooted, but not always at a reasonable cost.