Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ptsfa!ames!ll-xn!husc6!cmcl2!acf4!tihor From: tihor@acf4.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: posting security patch Message-ID: <14960002@acf4.UUCP> Date: Mon, 15-Jun-87 12:05:00 EDT Article-I.D.: acf4.14960002 Posted: Mon Jun 15 12:05:00 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 17-Jun-87 01:30:40 EDT References: <8706080744.AA11345@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Organization: New York University Lines: 18 Actually Mitch the problem is that if you do not have a software service contract (at least at self-maintenace level) its hard for DEC to find out who you are. AWith this problem as with a few mandatory hardware FCOs in the past DEC is trying to reach all customers regardless of maintenace contract status for precisely these reasons. I would not be suprised if the publicity surrounding the patch was part of the reason for its wide distribution. A car manufacturer with the lock problem you mentioned, even on 1% of its cars could reach everyone by telling the media, but would probably go bankrupt from people sueing them because their cars were stolen after the announcement. Also if a DEC Salesman told you VMS 4.4 or 4.5 was "Secure" in the C2-rating style they were wrong and you should tell their boss and have them fired, or at least reassigned. They might have made a reasonable presumption but they failed.