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From: sas@pyramid.UUCP (Scott Schoenthal)
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Subject: Re: OSI-model software
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Date: Thu, 11-Jun-87 13:07:51 EDT
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In article <1204@botter.cs.vu.nl> ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) writes:
>There has been a lot of generalized disgust with OSI expressed here and
>elsewhere.  I would be very interested in hearing specific comments about
>  1. What is wrong with the OSI model itself.
>  2. What is wrong with the specific protocols ISO has adopted.
>
> [ ... ]
>
>Nevertheless, there are certainly plenty of valid criticisms of the model and
>the protocols (e.g., the session layer is pointless, the presentation layer
>is practically empty, they forgot about encryption altogether etc.).  I would
>like to see a discussion of this subject, preferably by people who know what
>they are talking about.
>
>Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl)

I believe that Andy knows what he is talking about and I would certainly
be interested if he would expand on the criticisms he mentions in his posting.

While I did refer in an earlier posting to the political aspects of adoption
of an international standard (the phrase '"bomb-crazed" American military'
was an impetuous addition which I now regret), I believe that we should
consider here (or hopefully in a comp.protocols.iso) mainly the technical
issues of the ISO/OSI model and protocol definition and implementation.
Hopefully, this could include MAP/TOP specific protocols (e.g., Directory
Services, Network Management) and relevant CCITT protocols (e.g., X.400)
as well.

sas
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