Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!sri-spam!mordor!lll-tis!ptsfa!ihnp4!homxb!houxm!houxa!mel1 From: mel1@houxa.UUCP (M.HAAS) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.protocols.misc Subject: Higher speed LANs ? Message-ID: <541@houxa.UUCP> Date: Sat, 20-Jun-87 11:12:25 EDT Article-I.D.: houxa.541 Posted: Sat Jun 20 11:12:25 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Jun-87 06:21:52 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel Lines: 37 Xref: mnetor comp.dcom.lans:575 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:443 comp.protocols.misc:92 Is anyone working on higher speed LANs? We have lots of conversation here on ISO, TCP/IP, and ISO vs. TCP/IP, but they all seem to be content with the same old (what, 12 years now?) speed. Ethernet at 10Meg, twisted pair stuff at 1 or 2Meg, fiber backbones at 80 and 100Meg. But, disk to disk rates are still down at 20K to 100K bytes per second. What are the issues that keep us down at such low rates? The disks themselves are now in the 500K to 2Meg bytes per second range. Backplanes and memory are up in that range. Certainly, interface logic can go that fast (it does to disks, why can't it to LANs?). In theory one can stuff bits down an Ethernet at 1,500K bytes per second. Why is it such a struggle to get 200K bytes per second onto it? It seems to me that diskless workstations, bitmapped terminals with windows, cartograpy, medical and satellite image processing, weather map transmission, video/music/speech processing, and lots of other applications need high speed transfer of individual files. Rather, than the large number of users sending small items of data that the current LANs handle so nicely. Are there fundamental problems with TCP/IP that limit its application to higher speed use? Are the new ISO protocols better for high speed file transfer? Or, is the problem in the operating systems or interface to the computer bus? Can the high speed backbone fiber networks be made to handle individual computer to computer or computer to terminal traffic? Or, it there some fundamental issue that keeps them in the LAN to LAN bridging application? I know that there are propritary protocols and links that go much faster, but is it necessary to throw out the standards and ability to internet and use diverse equipment and applications to get the higher speed? Mel Haas , odyssey!mel