Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!eagle_snax!geoff From: geoff@eagle_snax.UUCP ( R.H. coast near the top) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Automatic IP address assignment Message-ID: <127@eagle_snax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 22-Jun-87 07:52:37 EDT Article-I.D.: eagle_sn.127 Posted: Mon Jun 22 07:52:37 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 23-Jun-87 04:22:52 EDT References: <8706121831.AA05760@saturn.mitre.org> Lines: 34 Summary: PCs have rights too! In article <8706121831.AA05760@saturn.mitre.org>, lazear@GATEWAY.MITRE.ORG writes: > Geoff, > I am surprised nobody has mentioned the issue of how does > someone off-net ever address anything to the PC-host? There has > been no notion of updating a name server to be able to tell remote > systems the PC's address (what if the remote system caches it?). > I think this impacts the duration of the IP/PC binding, since re- > using an IP address means former associations are now void implicitly. Quite apart from the (not unreasonable) idea of off-net nodes addressing the PC, an off-net server system may well need to map the client PC's IP address into a hostname or vice versa. For example, the Sun NFS mount daemon performs a consistency check on the mount request by taking the hostname passed in the RPC arguments, doing a 'gethostbyname' on it, and verifying that the RPC did indeed originate from that address. It can then confidently use the name to check the 'netgroups' access control list. As you say, a completely dynamic address assignment scheme would require that the name-address mapping be propagated to all servers which might have cached a previous mapping. > .... Perhaps the mainframe (as > I characterize non-PC hosts) has no need to contact the PC or try to > deliver datagrams to it until the PC comes up and announces itself? > Walt Lazear As I've indicated, I think this is unduly restrictive. But again, it all depends which problem you're trying to solve: sharing scarce resources (IP addresses) or making the installation of network nodes simpler and less error-prone. -- "You want a disclaimer form? Next window, please..." Geoff Arnold, Sun Microsystems East Coast Division (home of PC-NFS) UUCP: {ihnp4,decwrl,...}!sun!garnold ARPA: garnold@sun.com