Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-lcc!pyramid!hplabs!hplabsc!taylor From: rmatt@psueea.UUCP (Rick Matt) Newsgroups: comp.society Subject: Re: Computers and Open Meetings laws Message-ID: <1972@hplabsc.HP.COM> Date: Mon, 8-Jun-87 20:46:40 EDT Article-I.D.: hplabsc.1972 Posted: Mon Jun 8 20:46:40 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Jun-87 06:06:17 EDT References: <1864@hplabsc.HP.COM> Sender: taylor@hplabsc.HP.COM Distribution: world Organization: Dept. of Electrical Engineering, Portland State University Lines: 21 Approved: taylor@hplabs Bill Gunshannon replies to a posting fo Hugh Daniel with: >> In contrast I will question any system that our government wishes to >> install that I as a Citizen cannot look into and explore. > >Somehow the logic of this statement evades me. The last I heard the >government had hundreds (maybe thousands) of computers (IRS FBI NSA CIA >DOD etc.). Name one government agency that allows Citizens to look into >and explore it's computer. Are you merely pointing out the commonness of computers that citizens aren't allowed to look into? Your logic escapes me. I can't _know_ what Hugh Daniel meant, but I took it at face value. Just because it is common for there to be computers that the average citizen can't look into doesn't mean that Hugh doesn't question such systems. (Or, put a bit more straight-forwardly, Hugh can question the common practice of preventing citizens for gaining access to government computer systems.) Your point that it is presently common for this to happen certainly puts Hughs comment in a differant light, but the statement is far from illogical. Rick Matt