Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rochester!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!cae780!hplabs!hplabsc!taylor From: riddle@woton.UUCP (Prentiss Riddle ) Newsgroups: comp.society Subject: Re: The Impact of Inventions Message-ID: <2074@hplabsc.HP.COM> Date: Sun, 21-Jun-87 19:32:05 EDT Article-I.D.: hplabsc.2074 Posted: Sun Jun 21 19:32:05 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 23-Jun-87 01:20:13 EDT References: <2041@hplabsc.HP.COM> Sender: taylor@hplabsc.HP.COM Distribution: world Organization: Shriners Burns Institute, Galveston Lines: 33 Approved: taylor@hplabs A most interesting posting. My two cents' worth: although I agree with Michael Harrington that the world hasn't got much longer to survive if we continue to let the technocrats make all the decisions (and especially if we let them use the short-term profit motive as their one and only golden rule), I have even less faith in the government's ability to coerce them to behave responsibly through required "social impact statements." "Garbage In, Garbage Out" is a principle that applies as much to policy planning as it does to computing, and you get a bunch of corporate consultants together to try to predict anything as elusive as the outcome of new technology and you'll soon be even further "out in the ozone" than Michael Harrington. Just ask anyone who has had any exposure to the Environmental Impact Statement process: the definition of an EIS is a 2000 page lie, with appendices -- its sole useful function is to provide a tool for environmentalists to slow the advance of destructive projects by bogging their proponents down in paper wars. Instead, it's time we realized that we *all* share responsibility for the consequences of new (and old) technology: as consumers, voters, and workers, among other things. We all need to remember that just because technology is doable doesn't mean it should be done, and that just because a product is on the market doesn't mean it should be bought. The hamburger that you buy at Burger King is contributing to the destruction of tropical rain forests and the air conditioner you use in the summer is eating up the ozone layer; most of us don't know that sort of thing, but we should, and we can't afford to depend on corporate or governmental "experts" to tell us. But, you'll say, modern industrial society is too complicated for us to understand it well enough to behave responsibly. Correct -- and that's one of the reasons why industrialism may need to be on its way out if we're to survive. Prentiss Riddle