Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!sdcsvax!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!hplabs!hplabsc!taylor From: eravin@dasys1.UUCP (Ed Ravin) Newsgroups: comp.society Subject: Re: programming and gender Message-ID: <2138@hplabsc.HP.COM> Date: Mon, 29-Jun-87 19:47:35 EDT Article-I.D.: hplabsc.2138 Posted: Mon Jun 29 19:47:35 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 1-Jul-87 04:43:29 EDT References: <2036@hplabsc.HP.COM> Sender: taylor@hplabsc.HP.COM Distribution: world Organization: Bewildered Programmers' Home Lines: 48 Approved: taylor@hplabs With regard to the male vs. female computer programming style discussion... I spent two years of my college life grading students programs at the State University at Albany, and I remember observing some of the male/female differences in programming style. The biggest difference was neatness and comments: the men often wrote programs that looked like a tornado had gone through (badly spelt and inconsistent comments, varying case (this was Pascal, so it didn't matter), etc), while the women almost never did this (the work looked like it had been proofread at least once and there were almost always halfway decent comments). One possibility is that the women were being more conscientious and attentive to the course requirements, either because they were better motivated or had less experience on computers than the men did and therefore less bad habits. Another viewpoint might be that they were paying more attention and working harder because they needed to offset the disadvantage of studying in a field where our culture traditionally discourages women from pursuing (like chess or just about any "hard" science). All of the programs were done by computer science students, most of them majors. (which is a more consistent sample than the one described in the original article) However, when I got into the "real" world, at my first job, none of the women programmers exhibited any of those characteristics. These were all women who had been working in the field for at least three years. Some of them weren't neat at all, some wrote cryptic code doing ten things at once, some hardly bothered with comments. Others were paragon programmers, who wrote the cleanest and most reliable code in the entire company. When digging into other people's code I saw none of the "gender-specific" stuff described above (and in DT's article). So maybe the "difference" is really just in one's background, and disappears as soon as the women "catch up" in experience and expertise. This could be contrasted with the writing styles of science fiction authors, where the women for the most part write differently from the men, the more experienced women even more so. Disclaimer: this is all exceedingly unscientific, and like much of human communication, may be nothing but an exercise in making the world fit in with one's preconceived notions. Other people's viewoints, responses or flames welcome. - - Ed Ravin eravin@dasys1.uucp