Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!husc6!mit-eddie!gatech!hubcap!ncrcae!ncr-sd!hp-sdd!hplabs!hplabsc!taylor From: netoprhm%ncsuvm.bitnet@RUTGERS.EDU (Hal) Newsgroups: comp.society Subject: Re: The Impact of Inventions Message-ID: <2141@hplabsc.HP.COM> Date: Tue, 30-Jun-87 14:21:17 EDT Article-I.D.: hplabsc.2141 Posted: Tue Jun 30 14:21:17 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 1-Jul-87 06:45:43 EDT References: <2041@hplabsc.HP.COM> Sender: taylor@hplabsc.HP.COM Distribution: world Organization: The Pennsylvania State University - Computation Center Lines: 29 Approved: taylor@hplabs Two diverging points: A. Signifigant poets, philosophers.... The question was asked "Where are they now?"--The answer given was they are all writing jingles. Actually, they are all writing rock music. A few names: Patti Smith, Lou Reed, Jim Carroll. I am sure you can think of others. Patti Smith predicted that Rock music would eventually be seen as a legitimate art form, and I believe that day has arrived. Want to here what tommorrow's leaders attitudes are? Listen to "indie" stuff. And yes, people actually _do_ listen to the lyrics. B. Social Impact vs. rationalism The idea of doing a rational study on a proposed new technology's impact on society is ludicrous. The decision to devise and implement new technologies is never based on any sort a rational thought. Try justifying nuclear weapons rationally. You eventually get to the point where "They have it, we must better it." Now, does this solve any real problems. No, it simply fills a _percieved need_, which is what the implementation of technology is all about. Do we really need to go to Mars? No, but we want to. So, we eventually will. The point I'm trying (obliquely) to make is that instead of "impact studies" and other justifications draped in "rational thinking", it's about time we (humankind) took a good long hard look at exactly what it is we want to accomplish and why. Will this happen? Probably not. We are having too much fun with our toys to give them up. Hal NETOPRHM@NCSUVM.BITNET